Trump team makes confused start to Ukraine diplomacy

Priti Pateldame

We have to understand in more detail what they are saying. It's too easy to generalise from statements and commentators."

Dame Priti answered

We don't know that. And you know you've not been part of those discussions and neither have I. We all need to come to a clear understanding of the wider direction of travel. It's very early days in those talks, Victoria."

Dame Priti continued

That's not what the leader of the free world [Donald Trump] seems to be thinking and that's not what his US Defence Secretary seems to be thinking."

The BBC host interjected to say

I'm not generalising. I'm literally going by what they said."

Ms Derbyshire hit back

It's early days. I think we should be very, very clear about this. It's early days. There'll be future debates, discussions and dialogues. I woud certainly not want to put any of that, in terms of the talks, to undermine them I think right now every single country, NATO allies in particular and the United Kingdom, we are hugely invested in this conflict."

The former Home Secretary, speaking from Munich where a key security conference is being held, said